27 thoughts on “Obama-Romney debate, what it omitted

    • The point of the article is that important issues should have been in the debate, but were not. Then, one can hardly base onself on the limited content of the debate, not mentioning the wider context.


      • – David Azerrad

        What We Didn’t Hear Last Night

        What wasn’t said at tonight’s debate spoke volumes. In an hour and a half focused largely on the economy, not a single mention was made about the importance that marriage plays in combating poverty. Not a single mention of how federal welfare programs can function as poverty traps, especially as the Obama Administration has gutted the work requirements that made welfare reform a success. As the debate turned to focus explicitly on health care reform and the role of government more generally, not a single mention of how the federal government under Obamacare, rather than protecting religious liberty, is actively coercing citizens to violate their consciences. The nuts and bolts of taxation, regulation, Medicare, Social Security, and other domestic policies are important, but so too are the ways that these and other government actions shape culture and interact with civil society. At the end of the day, culture and the institutions of civil society are what make America great. Our government shouldn’t be weakening them.


        • Would you say that the David Azerrad comment is not “slanted to the writers preconcieved notions”? I would say it was based on fundamentalist Christian notions. At least, it agrees with the Patrick Martin article, and the Real News video, that a lot was not discussed in the debate.

          To a certain extent, it expresses the tension between Romney and the Christian Right. Romney is a flip-flopper, not an ideologist like Falwell, Robertson, or the Westboro Baptist Church. As a Mormon bishop, he is supposed to consider non-Mormon Christians heathens. While many people on the Christian Right consider Mormons heathens.


            • There are very real divisions between Christians and Mormons. Like there are between Christians and Muslims (both of them might be called “family oriented” as well).

              David Azerrad implicitly criticized Romney for not bringing up family issues from a Christian Right perspective.


              • There are no – – – I REPEAT – – – no divisions between everyday Christians and Mormons. I have never experienced or heard about anything of the sort. I, a Christian, have worked with Mormons for over 40 years and have never experienced or seen anyone try to create a division between the two faiths. There may be a radical here or there within the two religions but they are far from the mainstream.


                • Your good personal experiences are one thing (I bet that many Christians get along well at work or as neighbours or as friends with Muslims, Jews, Hindus, atheists, Neo-pagans, probably even with Satanists, as well).

                  The politics of this election is another thing. Though he had far more money than his Republican opponents, Romney in the southern Bible Belt lost one primary after another to Santorum, Gingrich, etc. He typically got no more than 30% of the primary vote in such states.


                • Indeed. The southern states then were one party (Democratic) states. So, even if the Democratic candidate then would not have been a Catholic, but a yellow dog 🙂 That, in the thinking of quite some Southern Democratic voters then, would still be better than Abraham Lincoln’s party 🙂


                • So what you have just said is that the southern Protestant Christians vote for one candidate that they did not like (Kennedy) due to his religion but they vote against one candidate the did not like due to his religion (Romney). That proves my point. Mainstream religions play less and less of a part in the US voters mind as time goes on. However, I must be quick to add that due to 9/11 I do not believe that US voters consider Islam a mainstream religion (even though our Muslim population is growing).


                • What a pity that this crime by about 20 people is blamed on 1,5 billion people, 20% of all people in the world. Traditionally in the US, presidents etc. do see Islam as a mainstream religion (even George W Bush said so, in spite of his “crusade” rhetoric).


                • Thanks for the video but I saw more signs with bigger letters on “Drone Attacks” than I did terrorism. I don’t think they were as worried about terrorism as opposed to the US reaction to it.


                • The letters on drone attacks and on religious fundamentalism are exactly the same size, both on the big banner on the stage and on the hand-held signs in the video. The drone attacks kill Pakistani civilians, while not a single Pakistani civilian had anything to do with 9/11.


                • Hi, WordPress did not charge us by the word, but it did put this comment by you in the spambox, from where I had to rescue it 🙂 This also sometimes happens to others commenting at my blog (and maybe to some comments by me on other’s blogs).


  1. Interesting read. I was watching with some fascination from this side of the pond (2am start, ugh!) and thought that Mitt Romney came across ‘presidentially’ and that Barack Obama had none of his 2008 fight about him: with the possible exception of the President’s barbed comment about Romney’s difficulties in sitting down on Day 1 with Democrats at the same time as trying to dismantle Obamacare.

    I’m going to be following from a British perspective on my blog: have a look at my thoughts ahead of last night’s debate: @tommygilchrist: Change we (still) believe in? http://t.co/keNP1iqF


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