Donald Trump, did he win the election?

This video from the USA says about itself:

Trump Elector: Gay People Should Hang

23 November 2016

A Montana Trump elector feels that gays should be hung. Ana Kasparian and Kenny Hamilton, hosts of The Young Turks, break it down. Tell us what you think in the comment section below.

“One of Donald Trump’s electors isn’t backing down from the hateful comments he made six years ago calling for the murder of gays.

Dennis Scranton, one of Montana’s three Electoral College voters, made the explosive comments in a 2010 Facebook rant against same-sex marriage. Scranton wrote:

“I think fruits are decorative. Hang up where they can be seen and appreciated. Call Wyoming for display instructions.”

His remarks about Wyoming appear to refer to the brutal murder of gay University of Wyoming student Matthew Shepard, who was tied to a fencepost outside Laramie and tortured in 1998. He later died of his injuries.

Reached this week by the Billings Gazette, Scranton made no apologies.

“Don’t forget, I’m 93 years old. I come from a different era. I hadn’t heard of anyone being homosexual until I joined the Navy, and then I encountered them,” Scranton said. “We were raised with good morals.”

Read more here.

In calling for death by hanging, Mr Scranton differs somewhat from other homophobic self-styled Christian extreme rightists in the USA. Some of these call for stoning LGBTQ people to death. Some for imprisoning them behind barbed wire of concentration camps.

By Patrick Martin in the USA:

Hillary Clinton leads by two million in US popular vote

24 November 2016

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s lead in the popular vote over Republican Donald Trump now tops 2 million votes, according to a tabulation of results reported by each state and reported by the nonpartisan Cook Political Report.

Clinton has received 64,223,958 votes to Trump’s 62,206,395, with several million more votes remaining to be counted, mainly mail ballots in California postmarked by November 8 but received by election authorities after that date. Vote counting in California is slowed by the length of the ballot, which includes a large number of complex referenda proposals.

Under the antiquated Electoral College system, which grossly over-represents smaller rural states at the expense of California and other heavily urbanized states, Trump has won 306 electoral votes to Clinton’s 232. A vote in the Electoral College, set for December 19, will officially entitle Trump to take the oath of office next January 20.

Clinton’s lead of 2 million votes is far greater than the margin in any previous US presidential contest in which the popular vote loser was installed as president by the Electoral College. Her margin of victory in the popular vote, approaching 2 percent, is greater than that of seven candidates who actually won the presidency.

The antidemocratic character of Trump’s election “victory” has not deterred leading Democrats … from prostrating themselves before the “president-elect.” …

Trump himself raised the subject Tuesday in the course of his hour-long, on-the-record discussion with editors, reporters and columnists of the New York Times. He noted criticism that he had not won the popular vote, and then argued that he could have done so if he had campaigned in the most populous states such as California, New York and Texas.

No one at the Times pressed the issue with him—or any other issue, for that matter. The transcript records a generally cordial discussion, punctuated at least 15 times by laughter. No one would guess, reading the transcript, that the newspaper had excoriated Trump not only in its editorial pages and op-ed columns, but also in its news pages, declaring him unfit for the presidency and a threat to American democracy. The verbal broadsides are forgotten, replaced by bowing and scraping before the new “commander-in-chief.”

Despite the media cover-up, however, Trump’s heavy defeat in the popular vote is significant. It underscores the fact that his installation in the White House is not the product of an embrace of his ultra-right policies by the American people.

Democratic candidates have won the popular vote in six of the last seven presidential elections, but in two of the six popular vote victories, the Democratic candidate—Al Gore in 2000 and now Clinton in 2016—fell short in the Electoral College.

In 2000, when Gore won nationally by 540,000 votes, the election was stolen through the Supreme Court intervention to halt the counting of legal votes in Florida. The notorious Bush v. Gore decision effectively awarded Florida’s electoral votes to Bush and made him president.

A group of computer scientists and election lawyers charged this week that the 2016 election result is equally dubious. They presented a report to leading Democrats, including Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta and general counsel Mark Elias, arguing that the vote totals in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania had been manipulated in favor of Trump.

So, Trump lost the popular vote. Did he really lose the electoral college as well?

Green party presidential candidate Jill Stein thinks so.

By Rebecca Shapiro in the USA:

Jill Stein’s Recount Effort Raises Millions In Just Hours

The fundraiser surpassed its $2 million goal late Wednesday night.

11/24/2016 12:18 am ET

Green Party presidential nominee Jill Stein’s call to raise funds to support vote recounts in three key states was met with ease late Wednesday, with the fundraiser reaching its $2 million goal in less than one day.

Stein’s press director announced Wednesday afternoon that the Green Party candidate needed an initial $2 million to support recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, three states where President-elect Donald Trump performed better than expected.

I have two questions about this.

1. If there are suspicions of vote fraud, then why does one need two million dollars and more millions (estimate: 6 to 7 million dollars) to challenge that? Why does one need to either be a millionaire, or get lots of money from many people, to challenge possible fraud?

2. Why is Ms Stein doing this challenge, instead of Ms Clinton, the victim of this vote fraud; if there was vote fraud?

Final certified election results from all 50 states and the District of Columbia show that Democrat Hillary Clinton won the popular vote over Republican Donald Trump by a margin of nearly three million votes: 2,864,974 to be exact. The final figures, tabulated and reported by Cook Political Report Wednesday, showed Clinton with 65,844,610, 48.2 percent of the total vote, and Trump with 62,979,636, 46.1 percent of the total votes: here.

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