42 thoughts on “Hillary Clinton refuses to debate Bernie Sanders

  1. If Bernie doesn’t throw in the towel he is handing the presidency to Trump on a silver platter and will be considered a spoiler the same as Nader was.

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    • Hillary Clinton did not throw in the towel in 2008 when she lost most of the primaries to Obama. Her supporters then used to call themselves PUMA: ‘Party Unity My Ass’.

      According to recent public opinion polls it is far from certain that Hillary Clinton would beat Trump; while Sanders would beat Trump massively.

      Claiming that Sanders should stop campaigning now would disenfranchise primary voters in the big state California and other states.

      It would say to eg, young voters who overwhelmingly support Sanders: Your vote does not matter. Go home; which might indeed hand the election ‘on a silver platter’ to Trump.

      Some people consider Nader a spoiler in 2000. However, the real spoiler was Bush’s little brother Jeb with his election fraud in Florida.

      http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/30274-jeb-bush-s-elephant-in-the-room-role-in-bush-v-gore-recount

      Many of the Nader voters would otherwise have stayed home, or voted Republican or for small parties.

      Also, after the pro-Bush verdict by the Supreme Court, Gore might have taken the fight to Congress.

      http://www.salon.com/2015/12/19/george_w_bush_vs_al_gore_15_years_later_we_really_did_inaugurate_the_wrong_guy/

      Unfortunately, he did not.

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      • Unfortunately Sanders platform is based on ideals that he cannot materialize free education free medical care. A socialist society. His video of 1985 praising dictator Fidel Castro for the changes he brought ti the Iskand of Cuba says it all about his philosophy. We need to be careful what we wish for.

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        • Free education, free medical care are in many countries, many of whom can hardly be called socialist (eg, Canada, Britain). In the 1950s, when Republican Eisenhower was president of the USA, rich people used to pay 92% in taxes. Now, they hardly pay any taxes if at all. So, free education, free medical care are hardly unrealistic pipedreams.

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            • Canada is not that far from the USA 🙂

              See also Michael Moore’s documentary, Where To Invade Next:

              Free education and free medical care were introduced in many countries after World War II, in countries which were poor then because of World War II destruction. And now, supposedly, the richest country in the world, the USA cannot afford them; because the political priorities are making billionaires still richer and spending more and more on endless wars all over the world?

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              • Do you really see it happening here? This is not a socialist country and hopefully never will be. I want to see the rich taxed according to their fair share. Whats happening to our middle class is a disgrace. But back to Sanders, we are a capitalist country. I read nothing but negative even from our own citizens, if it is so bad here, why are our borders beseiged with those wanting in to make a better life for themselves ? Stand up for a America, we need to stop trying to drag her down. We are hurting ourselves.

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                • As I wrote, many of the countries in which free health care and/or free education was legislated were/are not socialist countries.

                  The mechanics of capitalism, left to themselves, will concentrate more and more wealth away from the middle class and the working class to the 1% richest people.

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                • I disagree. We are not Canada, we are not Europe. Life is not so grand in either of these places, having lived in Germany I am familiar with its system of Hartz IV, Canada also has its class structure but is a beautiful land of wonderful people. I am not a communist, we will not agree and as an American I will not denigrate her but work in what ways I can toward a solution to our problems ( Socialism is not the solution) in whatever way I can. You seem unhappy with the US. Tearing the country down is not the answer unless you intentionally want to denigrate the US in the eyes of the world. We are and will remain the greatest country in the world and will continue to make room for all those flocking to our shores. The End.

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                • I agree with you that the Hartz IV system in Germany is a shame.

                  I blogged about that in 2008:

                  https://dearkitty1.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/volkswagen-scandal-in-germany-2/

                  The Hartz IV system is the idea of Volkswagen corporation bigwig Peter Hartz, who turned out to be central in a sex and corruption scandal at Volkswagen, and was convicted for that.

                  The paradox of Hartz IV is that it replaced a previous, more just system for unemployed people. That system dated from after World War II, when Germany was much poorer. Hartz IV replaced it when Germany was much richer. So, no economic necessity. Pure right-wing ideology; of individuals like Peter Hartz who hate poor people. The disastrous result of the ideologies of authors like Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman.

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  2. This video says about itself:

    24 May 2016

    In 2008 Hillary Clinton wrote a letter to the superdelegates asking them to switch to her despite Barack Obama having more pledged delegates. Now that the shoe is on the other foot she has of course changed positions. Cenk Uygur and John Iadarola, hosts of The Young Turks, break it down.

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  3. Wednesday 25th May 2016

    posted by Morning Star in World

    by Our Foreign Desk

    DEMOCRATIC socialist US presidential candidate Bernie Sanders is forecasting that victory in California on June 7 could trigger a rethink by Democratic Party superdelegates.

    “What happens if I win a major victory in California? Will people say: ‘Oh, we’re really enthusiastic about Hillary Clinton despite the fact that Bernie Sanders has now won whatever it may be, 25 states, half the states?’” he told news agency AP.

    If that happens, superdelegates “may rethink that. That is why you want the process to play out.”

    Asked if he thought that the Democratic national convention in Philadelphia could be problematic, he replied: “So what? Democracy is messy. Everyday life is messy.”

    The Vermont senator was speaking after the national committee announced a 15-member drafting committee to write the first version of the party platform, which includes allies of both candidates.

    He said that the platform process would be an “excellent time to educate the American people,” because it would allow the party to have a vigorous debate over ways to address wealth inequality, the role of Wall Street in the economy, climate change and universal health care.

    “A serious debate about serious issues is good for democracy, is good for the Democratic Party. It will increase voter turnout and that always works in our effort to defeat Republicans,” he declared.

    His planned rallies across California should allow him to speak directly to 200,000 voters before the primary.

    http://morningstaronline.co.uk/a-592f-United-States-Sanders-Cali-win-will-trigger-rethink#.V0WyzeQYMdU

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  4. When I introduced a bill in the Senate that would slow the effects of climate change, I knew that I could count on Bernie Sanders to stand with me from the very first day.

    Last year Bernie and I introduced the Keep It in the Ground Act, which would prevent new fracking, coal mining, and oil drilling on federal lands, as well as all new offshore oil drilling.

    Bernie and I are committed to this fight because we know we can – and must – slow the pace of climate change. Scientists tell us that we need to keep 80 percent of remaining fossil fuels in the ground to prevent the worst effects of climate change.

    I knew I could count on Bernie to fight this fight — can I count on you, too? Add your name to join me and Bernie in supporting the Keep It in the Ground Act. Click here to say you support our plan to prevent the worst of climate change’s effects.

    To stop climate change from destroying our planet, we must act quickly and boldly to bring an end to the extraction and exploitation of fossil fuels in lands owned by the American people.

    Not one more lease to extract coal.

    Not one more license for fracking.

    Not a single additional offshore oil drilling rig.

    We must keep 80 percent of the world’s proven reserves in the ground – and the Keep It in the Ground Act is a powerful step toward this goal to avert climate catastrophe.

    The fossil fuel industry is geared up for a fight. The Koch Brothers want us to fail, and we expect heavy resistance from people who profit off of the destruction of our planet.

    Showing tremendous public support will help pass the Keep It in the Ground Act – will you be a partner with me and Bernie in this movement to fight climate change?

    Click here to show your support for my bill with Bernie Sanders to keep fossil fuels in the ground.

    We’re building a movement to take on climate change and speed up our transition to clean, renewable energy. We need to act together and we need to act now.

    Jeff Merkley
    U.S. Senator from Oregon

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  6. There are few people who have done more to address the obscene proliferation of money in politics than Russ Feingold.

    There is also no one the Koch brothers want to keep out of the U.S. Senate more than Russ Feingold.

    Russ is running to win a seat in the Senate from Republican Ron Johnson, someone who was called the Koch brothers’ “model legislator.”

    Russ Feingold is someone we need in the Senate, and I’m proud to endorse his campaign. Can you join me in helping elect Russ Feingold?

    Split a $2.70 contribution between Bernie 2016 and Russ Feingold before our final FEC fundraising deadline of the primary to show that we can elect senators who don’t need big money in politics.

    Let me tell you a little about what made Russ so effective when he was in the Senate. Russ was the sole vote in the Senate against the USA Patriot Act in 2001. He opposed the war in Iraq, he fought disastrous trade deals and worked to reform our health care system. Russ was also an author of the McCain-Feingold Act to reform our corrupt campaign finance system.

    Meanwhile, his Republican opponent credits a Koch brothers organization with inspiring him to run for Senate in the first place. Ron Johnson wants to privatize veterans’ health care and even said he supports Donald Trump as the Republican nominee.

    Russ has already faced a huge influx of big money trying to keep him out of the Senate. In fact, the Koch brothers had their ads from a $2 million campaign against Russ taken off the air by TV stations when they were noted to be “false, misleading, and deceptive.”

    That won’t be the last time the Koch brothers try to take out Russ. We need to make sure that Russ can fight back and win.

    Please make a $2.70 contribution between Bernie 2016 and Russ Feingold before our final FEC fundraising deadline of the primary to show the billionaire class that they can’t buy our elections.

    In solidarity,

    Bernie Sanders

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