British civil liberties endangered again

This video says about itself:

TAKING LIBERTIES is a shocking but hilarious polemic documentary that charts the destruction of all your Basic Liberties under 10 Years of New Labour. Released to coincide with Tony Blair’s departure, the film and the book follow the stories of normal people who’s lives have been turned upside down by injustice – from being arrested for holding a placard outside parliament to being tortured in Guantanamo Bay.

The “anti-terror” arrests in northwest England: what really lies behind them? Here.

MORE than 100 green activists were arrested on Monday for allegedly planning a protest at a coal-fired power station near Nottingham: here. See also here.

A G20 protester who was slapped across the face by a police officer has been left “traumatised,” her family said on Wednesday: here.

Watch a collection of videos passed to the Guardian that appear to show police using excessive force against G20 protesters: here.

9 thoughts on “British civil liberties endangered again

  1. It’s no surprise that Mercer made such a disturbing comment indeed that man was alleged to have been a member of the notorious FRU. “A” writes: “I just got it confirmed that Patrick Mercer, OBE, was a leading officer in the Force Research Unit (FRU). He served in South Armagh and was at the front of things”

    David Icke, inferred that Mercer was part of the Big Brother problem and it seems to me that Patrick Mercer is saying that life-saving intelligence that comes from torture and those intelligence agencies that use torture ought to be given impunity.

    Patrick Mercer said “I am convinced that Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction, but I doubt that he has the capability to deliver them, and I doubt that there are links between Iraq and terrorists.”

    After that statement he voted for war and said “If we want peace, we must vote for war” but I think he knew that after the attack on Iraq, being privy to intelligence briefings and a warning from the Ministry of Defence about the collapse of the Iraqi regime, that the “peace” we all had and enjoyed would be in serious jeopardy, which I think, was rather politically beneficial for him but so very disastrous for the nation.

    He doesn’t seem to want to have the alleged torture of a former Guantanamo Bay prisoner investigated by Scotland Yard, it appears that he voted for war when seemingly there was no need or threat to do so and I believe he was at the front of things in Northern Ireland, moreover I also think he is not to be trusted, but then I suppose David Cameron and those infuriated Tory grassroots had cause to think likewise.


  2. Hi Jack, while I do think Patrick Mercer has unsavoury views on torture and the Iraq war, I think you should adequately source quotations about this issue. And certainly not quote the total fruitcake David Icke on this (or any) issue.


  3. Hi, I was not aware that I had in fact quoted David Icke, and of course, you are something of an authority on David Icke having made the comment that the man is, a total fruitcake, which does not seem to be the overwhelming opinion of his audience that all but give him a standing ovation at the end of his speech.

    Forgive me, but I do have an aversion to being told what I may or may not say or whom I may quote on any given issue and it’s all to do with something called freedom of speech, however, there are those that want to control such freedom and like to tell others that certain rhetoric or reference to particular individuals is verboten.

    I’m afraid I really don’t have the time nor the inclination to source quotations, one can either believe or disbelieve what I have written, but does anybody, really give a damn?

    If you don’t like what I have written then feel free to play the part of a dictator and delete it back to No comments.

    It’s up to you, but please, if you invite comments don’t rebuke and demean those that trouble to comment.


  4. Hi Jack, of course supporters of Icke applaud him. Just like supporters of the fruitcake Adolf Hitler used to do.

    Icke believes that people which he dislikes are in fact green lizards from outer space, who came to earth in UFO’s. See here. And here. If that is not anti science fruitcakery, then I do not know what is. He also believes in idiotic anti-Semitic conspiracy theories like the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.


  5. Hi, I can understand your perspective and you have a right to discount his viewpoint but many people regard his rhetoric to be very enlightening and for the most part realistic. Furthermore beyond your fruitcake evaluation of the man there is of course, another perspective that perhaps is somewhat more open-minded, and that can be found here [at Icke’s site].

    “Icke’s books are a phenomena in themselves. Whether one accepts all he writes, some of what he writes, or none of what he writes. No thinking person can simply discount them as absurd. “


  6. Hi Jack, you linked to an article on Icke’s own site by an uncritical admirer of him, who swallowed the whole nonsense about lizards from outer space uncritically. There is not any proof of living beings even as small as bacteria in outer space so far; let alone Icke’s big green lizards. And the Protocols of the Elders of Zion are crude plagiarism of a nineteenth century French satire about Emperor Napoleon III; they are anti Semitic and anti socialist lies as well.


  7. David Icke, is nothing to Philip Jones other than an information source. Therefore permit if you will his writings regarding David Icke which holds my sentiments. The other side of the coin, hopefully, not verboten.

    Whether one agrees with what Mr Icke writes or says, or whether one likes the man personally is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is, that he, along with Alex Jones, has worked harder and done more to bring the issue of the gradual implementation of Totalitarian Fascism being imposed upon us all, into the public arena, than anyone else currently engaged in the field of global conspiracy research.

    Whenever David Icke is referred to, the subject of `Reptilian Shapeshifters` emerges to immediately cast doubt upon all other areas of his work. What is your explanation for the countless numbers of people across the world, totally unconnected, who relate almost identical stories of encounters with `reptilian beings`. How do you explain away as absurd the endless themes of `Serpent` and `Dragon` Gods in the ancient texts from all corners of our planet.

    Simply saying that the issue is absurd is absurdity in itself.

    I served in the Military and the Police for a period totalling 21 years of my life. I am not easily taken in, and am sceptical and questioning by nature. I have read extensively these past 13 years, and consider myself a serious student of History, and I find Icke’s take on said History both generally accurate and refreshing.


  8. Re #7: Alex Jones is a white US American racist spewing hatred against Latin American immigrant workers. How, then, Jones being a racist, a key element in fascism, can he ever be against “Totalitarian Fascism”??!!

    Philip Jones writes: “I served in the Military and the Police for a period totalling 21 years of my life.” That is not exactly a recommendation. These organizations aim at making people joining them stop thinking for themselves. These organizations aim at hurting and killing people; look at the G20 demonstrations; look at Iraq or Afghanistan. These organizations tend to attract not very intelligent macho males, who often like hurting or killing people. I would not be surprised if both Patrick Mercer and Philip Jones would be somewhere near that category.

    Philip Jones: “What is your explanation for the countless numbers of people across the world, totally unconnected, who relate almost identical stories of encounters with `reptilian beings`. How do you explain away as absurd the endless themes of `Serpent` and `Dragon` Gods in the ancient texts from all corners of our planet.” Hey Mr Jones, there are many reptiles, both extant species and extinct species like dinosaurs etc, ON PLANET EARTH. NOT in any other place in space like Icke proclaims. There are thousands of species of “serpent”, from small as a worm to as big as an anaconda. So, add to that a bit of human exaggeration and fantasy, and you have your myths. Same as with dragons: scientists trace their origin to existing earthly reptile species, from the Komodo monitor “dragon” to misinterpreted dinosaur, or mammoth etc. bones. To quote Bob Dylan: “Something is happening here. But you don’t know what it is. Do you, Mr (Alex or Philip) Jones?”

    Oh yes, this thread is about dangers to civil liberties in Britain. NOT about propaganda for the BNP, National Front, Icke, or similar racists. Why don’t you start a blog of your own instead of off topic trolling on other people’s blogs?


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