USA: Bush supporter: flush koran down the toilet

This video is the film The Road to Guantanamo.

From the Google cache of Dear Kitty ModBlog.

USA: Bush supporter: flush koran down the toilet

Date: 5/24/05 at 10:55PM

From Eschaton blog (with different URL’s there):

What Would Jesus Do?

The pastor of a small Baptist church [in North Carolina, USA] has refused calls to take down a sign posted in front of his church reading “The Koran needs to be flushed [down the toilet, like in torture camp Guantanamo Bay],” saying Tuesday he has nothing to apologize for.

“My creed is the Bible, which tells me I am supposed to stand up and defend my faith,” said the Rev. Creighton Lovelace, pastor of the 55-member Danieltown Baptist Church in Forest City.

“I don’t hate Muslims, I just hate their false doctrines.”

But the Council on American-Islamic Relations, based in Washington, D.C., called on Americans of all faiths to demand the message displayed outside the church be removed.

At least, this stupid bigot Lovelace is not as hypocritical as Bush’s Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice, praising Islam especially around times of oil deals with the Saudi Arabian monarchy.

According to Editor and Publisher:

McClellan Backs Away from Claims that ‘Newsweek’ Story Cost Afghan Lives

At a White House press briefing, Press Secretary Scott McClellan, pressed by reporters, and disputed by Afghan President Karzai, retreated on claims that Newsweek’s retracted story on Koran abuse cost lives in Afghanistan.

He also claimed that he had never said it did, even though a check of transcripts disputes that. On May 17, for example, he said, “People did lose their lives” and “People lost their lives.”

More koran abuse in the USA: here.

Rightist support for Guantanamo Bay camp: here.

Islamophobia in the USA: here.

Nancy Pelosi, Laura Bush, and the hijab: here.

Britain: koran in rubbish bin?

6 thoughts on “USA: Bush supporter: flush koran down the toilet

  1. RE: USA: Bush supporter: flush koran down the toilet
    Posted by:

    The Pirates Bay
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    Date: 05/25/05 at 6:39 AM
    Well perhaps it is mean to say that the koran should be flushed, but who are you to tell him what he can or cannot say? it is quite hypocritical of you to bash him for bashing the koran, what are you thinking? Either freedom of expression or no freedom of expression, make up your fucking mind. Can you not see the stupidity of this? And by the way, the koran is wrong, but it seems a wast of resources to flush it down the toilet, I would suggest using it for kindling in your fireplace or perhapps something to wipe your ass with before you flush it.

    RE: USA: Bush supporter: flush koran down the toilet
    Posted by:

    Date: 05/25/05 at 7:34 AM
    Where did I “tell him what he can or cannot say?” I basically quoted an item by others on him, if you click on the link you will see that Muslims criticizing this sign did dispute the sign’s content, but *not* his constitutional rights.

    This reply above here shows disagreement among some Bush supporters on the koran. Some apparently prefer book burning or “wipe your ass with before you flush it” to flushing. It says a lot about them.


  2. NEWS LINE lead article: Saturday February 26 2005

    CLOSE DOWN US AND UK TORTURE CAMPS – says Labour MP John McDonnell

    ‘Guantanamo Bay and all British and American detention camps must be closed,’ Labour MP John McDonnell told News Line yesterday.

    He was speaking after former Guantanamo Bay prisoner, Moazzam Begg, 37, had told Channel 4 News on Thursday night that he had been tortured and trussed like an animal with a bag over his head.

    McDonnell said: ‘There has been a regime of torture and barbaric abuse at these detention camps established by both the American and British governments.

    ‘Those responsible should be brought before the courts, including governments.’

    A spokesman for the Stop the War Coalition said: ‘Moazzam Begg’s detention was absolutely illegal. The British and American governments are completely out of control and acting illegally, both in Iraq and in the detention of people in their camps, and they have to be brought to account.’

    Neil Durkin, spokesman for Amnesty International UK told News Line: ‘Mr Begg’s allegations on Channel Four News that he was tortured in US custody in Afghanistan are extremely serious and must be thoroughly investigated.

    ‘Up to now the US authorities have failed to adequately respond to persistent allegations of mistreatment of prisoners in their custody in the “war on terror”.

    ‘Equally, the UK authorities need to launch a proper inquiry into allegations that British agents colluded in Mr Begg’s detention and mistreatment.’

    In his first interview since his release last month Moazzam Begg accused his American captors of beating two detainees to death at the Bagram air base near Kabul in Afghanistan.

    He revealed that British intelligence officers interviewed him and had contact with him from the very beginning of his captivity.

    Asked: ‘What did the British want out of you?’, Begg replied: ‘They wanted me to cooperate with the Americans in every possible way.’

    Interviewer John Snow showed Foreign Office replies to letters from his lawyers denying any ability to make contact with him.

    Begg said he had ‘witnessed two people get beaten so badly I believe it caused their deaths’.

    He said two FBI agents ordered punishments including being ‘hog-tied’ – ‘having your hands tied behind your back and then simultaneously having them tied to your legs and your ankles and shackled from behind; left on a floor with a bag over my head, and kicked and punched and left there for several hours, only to be interrogated again’.

    He said he was threatened with being sent to Egypt, ‘to be tortured, to face electric shocks, to have my fingers broken, to be sexually abused, and the like’.


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