21 thoughts on “US fat cats demand cuts to poor people

  1. The problem here is that you are shooting the messenger without reading the message.

    Social Security’s finances are in trouble – that fact comes from the Trustees not Lloyd Blankenfeld who is echoing the message. The article mentions Lloyd because he is a slime, and they want to talk about the degree to which he is a slime rather than whether Social Security can meet its promises.

    • Hi Joe, I have no idea at all whether “Lloyd Blankenfeld” is a slime or not. I am not even sure whether there is any person of that name.

      The article only mentions Lloyd Blankfein, the most vocal lobbyist for Social Security cuts.

      It seems that some lobbyists for Social Security cuts might need some reading lessons.

      • Sorry I misspelled his name, but not his character. This is the guy who described taking TARP relief as ‘Doing God’s Work’. I kid you not. He isn’t a vocal lobbyist for Social Security cuts. He is the head of Goldman Sachs.

        He is repeating what the Trustees have said. Are you suggesting that they are part of the lobby for Social Security cuts?

        • The subject of the article which I quoted is not what the trustees say or did not say, what might be the background of that, etc.

          Did it ever occur to Social Security cuts lobbyists that the US budget problems might be caused, more than by Social Security, by war in Iraq, war in Afghanistan, war in Pakistan, war in Somalia, war in Libya, maybe next month war in Iran, war in you name it; and/or the big bank bailouts for people like Lloyd Blankfein? Lloyd Blankfein, of the CEO Fiscal Leadership Council of the Center for a Responsible Federal Budget, and as such a very visible and audible Social Security cuts lobbyist.

      • You last comment simply takes me back to the original comment. You are shooting the messenger and not paying attention to the message.

        I hope those who are arguing for Social Security reform entirely ignore the connection between US budget problems and all of these wars. Wars have nothing to do with the problems in Social Security. The problem in Social Security is that it generates more promises than it can fill.

        The Trustees say that Social Security has 20.5 trillion in unfunded obligations. You apparently want to conflate the issue with wars which do not get funded by payroll taxes or receive funding from the Trust Fund.

        I agree with you about the problems for the government’s spending. We are spending 700 billion on defense. But spending less there doesn’t change the finances of Social Security.

        • “I hope those who are arguing for Social Security reform entirely ignore the connection between US budget problems and all of these wars.”

          As quite some of the prominent fat cats in the CEO Fiscal Leadership Council of the Center for a Responsible Federal Budget make lots of money from the US federal contracts connected with those wars, while US soldiers keep dying thousands of miles away from home, that connection IS there, whether those CEOs ignore it or not.

          They attack Social Security AS PART OF THE FEDERAL BUDGET. While not only ignoring those wars and their relationship to the budget, but also the enormous federal bailouts of the financial sector of 2008 and later, which helped them, but which hardly helped the budget deficit :)

      • I appreciate your comment on where to organize. I can’t support anything that comes from AARP. They do not maintain the integrity of the debate. They promote noise in the debate that negatively affects their core audience. The Trustees have said that the status quo means that anyone 63 or younger will live longer than Social Security pays full-benefits. The organization does not serve this audience. It is an integrity issue for me.

    • You are much like this article. You want to conflate issues that aren’t related. If we spend less on the wars, our deficit is lower and Social Security is not better off.

      You want to change the discussion from whether Social Security is in trouble to something that is completely unrelated. Whether it comes from Lloyd or from the Trustees, Social Security’s finances are in trouble and changing the subject is the objective.

  2. AND NOW A WORD FROM A POOR ELDERLY KNOW-NOTHING: President Obama had his chance to accept the Bowles/Simpson recommendations (or part of them if that is what he wished to do). He did not. So now there is a “Campaign for Sanity” as I call the subject group of CEOs. There is a lack of capital in the USA for many reasons. We need to allow capital back into the USA for investment in new businesses or R&D for established businesses. That is why we should ensure there are lower taxes for the repatriation of this money.
    NOW FOR THE “POOR OLD ME” part of my comments. I and many other senior citizens are receiving way to much in the way of Medicare and Social Security. I am not a rich man but I have plenty of food on the table and my family doctor bills are minimal (due to Medicare). I could take a cut of 5% on both handouts (and they are handouts) and still live comfortable. Not rich, just comfortable. Now if every one of us old codgers would do that we could put a dent in our SPENDING PROBLEM. Why does the government hand us money that we do not need?
    Don’t cry for me Argentina – – – or – – – Huffington Post or any other “news” outlet that just loves to stir up trouble.

    • Two things. First, Simpson Bowles didn’t cut benefits for seniors. It cut benefits for future seniors. In general politicians do not fix problems which they can say do not exist. Specifically, he said that Social Security was – you know – structurally sound. He got elected on that message – so in his mind there is no problem.

      Second, I applaud your willing to be part of the solution. Now if we can get the other 299,999,999 of us to join you.

    • Our site “Fix Social Security Now” on FB is for people who want reform. We don’t push a specific flavor, just that reform is needed and honesty is required.

      Whether it is us or another effort, join something. As an individual, your voice doesn’t really matter. Until you are part of an organization your voice isn’t heard.

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